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	<title>Comments on: She&#8217;s Such A Geek</title>
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		<title>By: k0re</title>
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		<dc:creator>k0re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think there's actually less sexism in tech and science as there are in other fields actually.

this may not be true of the US but i can see how going to an all-girls school for most of your life probably just allows girls to sink or swim on their own merit and are not usually aware of gender-issues until they go out in the real world.  it seems archaic but i think there definately were advantages to that.  one perceived certain girls to be more alpha than others but it wasnt associated with gender but more on personality or drive.  i should check if it's true but i'm sort of under the impression that a good chunk of really successful women probably attended some all-girl educational institution at some point in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think there&#8217;s actually less sexism in tech and science as there are in other fields actually.</p>
<p>this may not be true of the US but i can see how going to an all-girls school for most of your life probably just allows girls to sink or swim on their own merit and are not usually aware of gender-issues until they go out in the real world.  it seems archaic but i think there definately were advantages to that.  one perceived certain girls to be more alpha than others but it wasnt associated with gender but more on personality or drive.  i should check if it&#8217;s true but i&#8217;m sort of under the impression that a good chunk of really successful women probably attended some all-girl educational institution at some point in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting!  Where are you located?  I also have encountered that in other countries it tends to be slightly more socially acceptable to be a woman and technological.  In the US and the UK, however, I have found that more men tend to sneer openly or just say "there there don't worry your pretty little head about that big mean computer." How do you see American women tending to pity these women?  

In an environment like SRL or the Flaming Lotus Girls, we see pockets of civility where men and women alike are left to sink or swim on their own merits.  FLG provides a slightly more supportive touchy-feely environment in which women learn to use tools from absolute scratch, as opposed to SRL, where you are expected to already know a thing or two, but either way there is a certain amount of baptism by fire.  That is, I find, the kind of equality that people tend to want, where no one is given any special privileges, but no one's torn down because of their gender.  

When we tear you down, it's cause you're an idiot.  

"Most guys I know love smart women and often lament the lack of them to date. It’s women like Paris Hilton that make it cute to be stupid and shallow."

I guess it depends on the sampling of the group, because I have also met plenty of men who think they prefer women who sit still and are pretty to women who are opinionated and smart.  This eventually does not come out in the wash, usually, but enough of this attitude is expressed that it worries me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!  Where are you located?  I also have encountered that in other countries it tends to be slightly more socially acceptable to be a woman and technological.  In the US and the UK, however, I have found that more men tend to sneer openly or just say &#8220;there there don&#8217;t worry your pretty little head about that big mean computer.&#8221; How do you see American women tending to pity these women?  </p>
<p>In an environment like SRL or the Flaming Lotus Girls, we see pockets of civility where men and women alike are left to sink or swim on their own merits.  FLG provides a slightly more supportive touchy-feely environment in which women learn to use tools from absolute scratch, as opposed to SRL, where you are expected to already know a thing or two, but either way there is a certain amount of baptism by fire.  That is, I find, the kind of equality that people tend to want, where no one is given any special privileges, but no one&#8217;s torn down because of their gender.  </p>
<p>When we tear you down, it&#8217;s cause you&#8217;re an idiot.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Most guys I know love smart women and often lament the lack of them to date. It’s women like Paris Hilton that make it cute to be stupid and shallow.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess it depends on the sampling of the group, because I have also met plenty of men who think they prefer women who sit still and are pretty to women who are opinionated and smart.  This eventually does not come out in the wash, usually, but enough of this attitude is expressed that it worries me.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Tolleson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Tolleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, as a scientist I work with plenty of women here in the lab that are at least as scientifically inclined as I am. But NONE of them are American. Funny thing is, American women tend to pity these women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, as a scientist I work with plenty of women here in the lab that are at least as scientifically inclined as I am. But NONE of them are American. Funny thing is, American women tend to pity these women.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Tolleson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Tolleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well, except for the rampant sexism and that fact that girls grow up constantly being told that being into science and technology not a “girly” thing to do

This is true. However most of this sexism seems to come from other girls not men. Most guys I know love smart women and often lament the lack of them to date. It's women like Paris Hilton that make it cute to be stupid and shallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well, except for the rampant sexism and that fact that girls grow up constantly being told that being into science and technology not a “girly” thing to do</p>
<p>This is true. However most of this sexism seems to come from other girls not men. Most guys I know love smart women and often lament the lack of them to date. It&#8217;s women like Paris Hilton that make it cute to be stupid and shallow.</p>
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